August 5, 2021 xerxes

In this episode former ice-hockey champion Dieter Kalt talks about what it takes to become a champion, how important failure is, how to develop a champions mindset and more.

About Dieter Kalt

Dieter Kalt, CEO DK74-Group, www.futurestars-club.com, www.dieterkalt.com

Once a little boy with a dream to become an ice-hockey player and to compete in the Olympics, Dieter looks back at 30 years in Pro-Sports as an athlete, coach and manager.

17 World Championships and 3 Olympic Games appearances later, he has been selected to be part of the Austrian Ice-Hockey Federations “Team of the Century”.

Today Dieter is sharing his learnings and experiences from sport and sport-business and the world of teams, leadership, passion, dedication, victory and defeat, as a C-Level business coach and on stages throughout the country and online.

As a father of 4 children, his latest project is a matter of heart and impact. The #FutureStars mentoring program exists to inspire the next generation of young people with dreams to ignite their talents and reach their full potential. He is convinced, that developing a “Champions Mindset” within a team of #FutureStars will teach you most valuable life skills and prepare you for all the opportunities and challenges ahead.

Links

linkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dieter-kalt-0803596b/

Instagram: https://instagram.com/dieterkalt74

Facebook: https://facebook.com/Championsmindacademy

Transcript of the Interview

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Welcome to Challenging ParadigmX.

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What is the foundation of becoming a champion?

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How important is failure for growth and personal
development And there’s a championship mindset.

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Something that anyone can learn.

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My guest today is Dieter Kalt.

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As a former professional ice hockey player,
he is a three-time Olympian participated in
17 world championships and has been selected
into Austria’s ice hockey team of the century.

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After being one of Australia’s most successful athletes,
he became a sports coach or manager before carrying
his knowledge about teams, leadership and success
into the business world, where I worked as a C-level
coach and keynote speaker, He’s the father of four.

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And his latest project is a matter of heart for him.

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The future stars mentoring program, which exists to
inspire the next generation of young people with a
dream to ignite the talent and reached a full potential.

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Dita won nine championships out of his 22
seasons in three different countries and
many of these as the captain of his team.

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So he’s clearly a true champion and he shares his knowledge
of what it takes to become one in an outside of sport.

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So, if you’re interested in finding out
more about champions, mindset, stay tuned.

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Hi.

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Yeah, Xerxes.

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And today I’m here with Dieter Karlt.

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Dieter, it’s a pleasure to have you here.

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Please introduce yourself.

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Who are you and what you do?

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Sexist.

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Thank you very much for having me.

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It’s an honor to be on your podcast.

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My name is And I have been an athlete all my life.

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I’m 47 years old.

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Now I’m a father of four kids and I used
to be a little boy with a big dream.

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And my dream was becoming a professional hockey player.

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And becoming the best player in the world.

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So that’s that, that was the start to come
from a sports background in my family.

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My dad used to be a hockey player
and then he used to be a manager.

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And then he was the president of the
Austin hockey Federation for many years.

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So he was my partner through my whole career.

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I learned from him.

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He was he was my role model and I got to
view both sides of the coin from early on.

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So I’m, I had had a normal youth.

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I was growing up chasing my dreams.

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Obviously I was going to school.

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I was playing, I was doing several sports.

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I was playing soccer.

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I was skiing.

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Growing up in the south in the Southern part of
Austria, winters were called and the lakes were frozen.

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So I was playing hockey all the time.

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And I had this, I was not the, I was not the biggest guy.

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I was not the guy with the hardest shot, but I
had this determination to win and to get better
every day, um, this, this kind of mindset.

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And obviously there was something that I learned from
my dad and my peers and from the club that I played
from my coaches and mentors and this kind of thing.

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So I finally got the chance to turn pro when I
was still in school, I was 16 years old, starting
to play with the problem with the older ones.

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And then again, I had those role models who were
pushing and pushing and pushing, and my goal.

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I, I had this huge goal of becoming the best, but that
was kind of, I didn’t know what I was, what I was doing.

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That’s time.

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I didn’t know what it meant really, but that was kind of
the, the the light at the end of the tunnel, the beacon.

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Um, so that gave me the kind of direction.

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And I was, I kept working and working and
working and one day I had the chance to become
pro and then I wanted to take the next step.

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I wanted to get better.

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What can I do next?

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Where can I go next?

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So I started playing for national team for
the Austrian national team, and that’s when
really my whole career started to be able to
present yourself on an international stage.

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To represent your own country where the thing,
the sign on the chest is much more important
than what is standing at the back of your Jersey.

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I really felt at home in that kind of environment,
try to compete against the best in the world.

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That was unbelievable for me.

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And actually to get that feeling that.

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You know what, I’m not that, you
know, I’m, I’m not that far away.

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If I push a little bit hard, if I try a little
more, give me a little bit more time and I can
grow this confidence started growing and I took
step by step and I started playing in, in Germany.

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I played in, I played in the us, so I
played in, in Sweden for a couple of years.

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And then a couple of stages in Austria, I became
captain of the national team and competing.

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17 world championships throughout my career
and three Olympic games and are like, Okay.

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At the end of my career, I was like, I had to call somebody.

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First when I had my first, well, when I had my
first a gig on stage, when I was talking about
champions mindset, what it takes to be successful.

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What I learned in my career, I have to
call a guy and asked him for my stats.

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I had no clue.

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Well, obviously I played for 22 years professionals.

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So it was quite a long time.

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But I was never good with desk statistics.

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So I asked the guy, Hey, what were the teams?

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I, I knew the teams that I played on, but how did we
end up, uh, what were the years I mixed everything up?

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So there was a sheet of statistic of numbers at the
end that he came up with, he was laughing at me and I
was looking at it and I’m like, well, not too bad after
all, I didn’t even realize it was just, I still felt.

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Fuck some days I’m so bad.

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I’m so bad.

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I can be so much better, but on
paper, everything looked really good.

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So I started thinking, what did it really take to get there?

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Because not everything was planned.

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I mean, I planned as a, as an athlete, you plan
the practice and you plan the weeks and the
months and what kind of goals you want to reach.

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Everything is planned that way, but the
big goal, it always seemed so far away and.

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Early on pretty early on that.

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It’s not really about the goal at the end.

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It’s what happens in between and that’s it.

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Or you hear that so many times.

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The Vic is the seal in German.

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It’s about the path and not, not the, not the goal
and, by not being able to overcome many of them.

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Big obstacles that were standing in my
way because of everything went my way.

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And throughout my career, um, for some years
everything went smooth and the, and the career went
like this, but then I started to hit some rocks
and some injuries and some things didn’t go my way.

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Obviously there was big competition and there
was a lot of great players are looking for jobs.

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And, and I was trying to fight hard against every obstacle.

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You know, I’m strong enough.

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I can go through through the wall in my head.

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But only when I started to realize that, you know,
for some reason, I don’t know how I came upon
that, that I cannot fight against the, had to let
it go kind of accept it and let it go, you know?

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Water running around.

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There’s some obstacle, it takes different paths,
but, you know, I ended up in better situations
afterwards, every time by, by feeling something
really negative, like being really down and thinking,
oh my, my career, I screwed up my career now.

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Bad move, bad decisions.

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I’m not good enough, whatever.

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I ended up in better situations because I kept working.

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I always had to fall back on.

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Okay, what can I influence?

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What can I influence?

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Take away everything that, that, that, that
comes upon me, the pressure and the things
I cannot influence, but what’s my basis.

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And that was always the, the attitude, the mental attitude,
the mindset, and what kind of work I put on the table.

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What can I influence?

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And every time I, I took this step, And
focused on that and let go, um, actually
ended up in better space in better spots.

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And once I realized that, and I was lucky to realize that
mid twenties, so I had a long career it’s still going on.

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I can have made a system out of it because I
lost my way many, many times, you know, but I
figured something out how to get out of holes
quicker again, because I knew that feeling.

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Okay.

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It’s okay.

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It’s okay to screw up.

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It’s okay.

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Not to be able to, to reach that one goal.

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Okay.

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Maybe that’s a sign.

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Maybe I go a different direction and see where it takes me.

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So I’ve been studying this and once
I, and once I, I ended my career.

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I felt so grateful for that kind of
life because it was in life so far.

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You know, everything I did was because
of passion and it was not easy.

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It was not fun all the time, but it was always passionate.

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It was never a job.

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It was a lifestyle.

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That’s me.

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I’m, I’m an athlete.

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I am competing.

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I want to win.

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I want to be on a team.

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I want to help others.

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I can, I know how I can take care of myself.

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So what can I do next to help others to succeed?

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Um, because I realized by helping
others, I get more successful myself.

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So there was a time when I became that leader, that
captain of teams, for example, it was not about me anymore.

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So it was kind of in a progression.

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So once I stopped once I stopped
playing obviously I, I, I had.

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Think about what what’s gonna, what’s going to happen next.

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It’s not something that you plan
as an athlete or many athletes.

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Don’t do not like to think about life after sports.

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And I had some discussions in my own podcasts with
professional athletes and they said, they know that I’m
really aware of this, obviously, but I cannot let that
thought creep into my head because it’s going to take down.

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It kind of take away a little bit of my
focus, what I have to do to be great.

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So, but then the day comes and suddenly
reality hits and then you have to be
really, you have to know yourself, who am I?

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What identifies me?

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Is it just the athlete with the helmet on or with
the, with the soccer shoes on or whatever sport
it is or what’s the, who’s the person behind it.

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And I had to go through that process and, uh, myself.

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Too, thankfully, I was prepared for that.

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I never got that.

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Well, it feels good if people pat on
your back, oh, here’s a great deal.

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The best.

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It feels good.

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There’s the other side of the coin too, where you are just,
you know, if you lose, nobody likes you, but it feels good.

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But if you put it in the right perspective and you don’t
get all your self-confidence needing from appreciation
from other people, but from your family, from your best
friends and from yourself and you look in the mirror, I did.

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Good.

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It’s good.

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What you do, even though it’s not perfect.

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It kind of prepared me for what’s going to happen later.

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and I said, you know, I, I met so, so many people
throughout my career, um, through all ages and I was
not, like I said before, I was not the most talented guy.

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I see, I saw so many guys fail.

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I go, I saw so many guys disappointed or
frustrated, not knowing and feeling worse.

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And I said, there was a way how I
did it and I learned it from others.

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I tried to put different things together
that started working for me over time.

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I really like to pass this on and I saw it.

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And that’s my mission right now.

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I help, you know, on one side I help young people who
try to trying to reach the potential, but don’t know
how, whether it’s so much energy like it is right now.

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If you talk to like two young people, They’re the
ones who are going to save the world sooner or later.

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Right.

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But which way to go, you can have the best chip and the
best captain, but if you don’t know where to go, you need
those little hacks and those little guardian angels, those
mentors sometimes, sometimes need to kick in the butt.

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Sometimes you need somebody to pull
you or just to, to be there for you.

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So I want to be that guy to the next generation.

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It, it, it, it fills me with joy,
with the people at work so far.

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That’s something that I want that I wish
for myself to be a good mentor for my kids.

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I have, like I said, I have four kids.

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I want to be a good role model for them.

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And there’s so much need and, and there’s so
much, I want to give, so that’s something that
I, that I want coming from that perspective.

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Okay.

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How can I, what can I.

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It’s up to me to take my life and my own into
my own hands to be prepared for that one moment.

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That’s the thing in sports, right?

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That one moment that’s one, uh,
free kick or that one penalty shot.

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That’s one moment that can make
or break a career or a season.

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I always wanted to be that guy.

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I always want it to be that guy.

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How did I prepare?

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I prepared.

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Practice practice, practicing, failing, failing, failing,
failing, failing, using that w that famous word failure,
you know, a sin it’s absolutely, it’s a laughing about
this because, you know, that’s the only way to get better
is to do something too fast, too hard, or not hard enough.

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And you have to try again and have to think about technique.

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Am I prepared?

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What can I do?

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How can I reach.

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So that’s a normal, that’s a normal thing.

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But then I said, you know, if I’m prepared
well enough, I prepare as good as I can
to be able to improvise in that moment.

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And I want to take a bit both hands and
if I fail, that’s fine, that’s fine.

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Then I find a way to do it better next time.

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But it’s that feeling that I try to do it.

192
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I didn’t hide in them.

193
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And that’s something that you can practice.

194
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So I want to give that to you.

195
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But I have been the manager after
my, after my professional career.

196
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I wasn’t.

197
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I did a three-year coaching, or
studying to be a professional coach.

198
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Uh, the, the, a license in Austria,
it takes three years to do that.

199
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I did that beside my bed when I was
still playing professional hockey.

200
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And, uh, so I can, I can transfer my knowledge, better.

201
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So I was working as a coach with some of the different
national teams in the junior national teams and in
the, in the, in the pro national team in Austin.

202
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Uh, was responsible for developing a youth program in a
professional hockey team in Austria, my hometown, where I
came from, and then I got the chance to work as a sports
director, being responsive for the pro teams and the youth.

203
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So I went through all the different positions of leadership,
so to speak so one and obviously had a different role.

204
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I was not the guy on the ice anymore.

205
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I was the guy who was trying to build that
environment for other people to succeed.

206
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Again.

207
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I needed everybody else to be
good, to be able to succeed myself.

208
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The only problem was sometimes, you know, if you’re not you
as a coach, for example, you’re standing on the sideline.

209
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And you’re watching people and
you cannot influence that second.

210
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Somebody makes the decision on the field.

211
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The only thing you can do is to prepare those
people as good as you can, so they can make
their own decisions in that kind of environment.

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That’s good for everybody, but you cannot be do it yourself.

213
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And so sometimes it’s frustrating.

214
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So, I was looking at leadership from
a different perspective from up there.

215
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So.

216
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Making be responsible at the end.

217
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And that’s what I do with, entrepreneurs, with,
business leaders who come to me and say, I need
that look from, I need that look from the outside.

218
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I know what I’m doing in my profession,
but I’m not a great leader yet.

219
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I need that.

220
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I need the kind of culture change because I understand if
we want to be better, we have to come together as a group.

221
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Everybody has to be in the right role.

222
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There has to be chemistry.

223
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There has to be energy that has to be responsibility
and ownership helped me bring this to our company.

224
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And that’s where I come in.

225
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And I really like doing that because that’s.

226
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Working in a sports leadership team where
there’s different opinions on the table
and you discuss and you fight sometimes.

227
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And one guy has to make a decision at the end.

228
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He goes out and they speak with one voice.

229
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That’s what happens in winning organizations.

230
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And that’s what I try to bring to business, for example.

231
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So.

232
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That’s that was a long story, but that’s exactly what I do.

233
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I’m trying to tell my story and,
and trying to inspire people.

234
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I try to make people follow me on,
on different channels to see me fail.

235
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And to me to see me suck at different things all the time,
I’m trying to get better, you know, one, one day at a time.

236
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So like one thing I remember when I was a
kid, I saw you on television, And, sometimes
there were games, obviously that you didn’t.

237
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And your team didn’t win.

238
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And when, uh, when you were interviewed and were asked
about who was to blame and say, if, if, if the referee
made some bad calls, you never blamed other people.

239
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And this is something that I always found very inspiring.

240
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And also when I want to mention is, I mean, you
talked about you were this playing in, in, in,
in championships, but like how many championships
did you win in like mine in 22 years or.

241
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You know what, at something some sometimes when I speak
about this, I am really, you know, I don’t want to break
or anything, you know, it sounds it tendencies are.

242
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I don’t like to speak so much
about myself and how I look at me.

243
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I’m, I’m a great champion.

244
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I won so much, but matter of fact, this.

245
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Do a little things right.

246
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And good things happen.

247
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That’s just what happened in my career as a site product.

248
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And, you know, like I said, it was 20, 22
years in, in, in professional team sports.

249
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And I had the honor to play in 17
finals in 22 years and we lost in.

250
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A couple of them, but nine of them, we ended
up winning and, and, and, and, and pulling
and carrying the trophy around in the city and
breaking championship trophies and stuff like this.

251
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So I was really fortunate.

252
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Like I started to build this self-talk and to build
this attitude and this mindset that it’s success.

253
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It’s not the matter.

254
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If it’s going to happen only when it’s going to happen
because of the, of the, the standard that everybody involved
in, those teams that I played for put up for themselves.

255
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As an individual and also as a team and
obviously, and that just makes it so much fun.

256
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If you, if, if you work with people who always want
to get better, of course it doesn’t work every day.

257
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You always have those bad days.

258
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But what I’ve found from working with, and watching the best
in the world in what they did, they did the simplest thing.

259
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Over and over and over and over.

260
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And it kind of, it was kind of an eye opener for
me because here I grew up that you have to be,
you have to do that extraordinary all the time.

261
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You have to do that, the highlight thing all the time
and able to be really good to be a champion where,
where I’ve found out, it was always the little things.

262
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The things that even the, the 10 year olds are getting
bored, practicing, oh, coach Knight again, this,
well, look at the best of the best, what they’re
practicing, but in the highest form of perfection.

263
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It’s the little, little, little things, the
basic things, and it makes so much sense.

264
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It made so much sense for me and it made it so much fun to
work with those kinds of people, because it’s the bad days.

265
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Usually, you know, that way you
have to show up and bring your best.

266
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And that’s the basic really your lowest level
is higher than the highest level of some other.

267
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So that’s where medic competition, obviously that from a,
from a competition standpoint, that’s where I look at it.

268
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And that’s what I bring to outside
to people outside of sports too.

269
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Is that how I experienced being a champion didn’t mean
like winning over everything, you know, we have to use
your elbows, you have to kill the opponents and you
have to, you know, that’s what really strength means
dominating and breaking other people or other teams.

270
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It’s not the truth.

271
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This level of respect within combat competitors
in our sport, at least I can only talk
from my perspective was immensely high.

272
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Obviously you want it to win and you did everything you
could do to win, but always with the right, for the right
reasons, never went without respect, without being fair.

273
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Yeah, you want to be Right.

274
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But not winning at all costs and always
showing, being humble and stay on your boat.

275
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And I learned that from, especially
in Scandinavia, that was unbelievable.

276
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The greatest champions, the best, the best
of the best, how they handle, how they
conducted themselves as humans in groups.

277
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How they step back, how they, how they thought well, they
take, they put things into perspective as a human being.

278
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I’m just the guy who tries to be a good father and good
friend, a good teammate, but then you step into your
profession and then you want to be the best of the best, and
you do everything to get better, to learn and to get better.

279
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And, and I really admire that if you
combine those two things, trying to.

280
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And that’s what, obviously what some businesses also
manage the winners, usually the best in the world.

281
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They have this.

282
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They only take people if you qualify
in, well, that’s the qualification.

283
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We need to be able to work with us, but
you have to bring this to the table.

284
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And that’s, that’s the soft factors.

285
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That’s what kind of personality my friend.

286
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Can I trust you?

287
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Can I rely on you when, when it gets difficult,
do you show up for me when I need you?

288
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Those are the qualities.

289
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Yeah.

290
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And so many people think it doesn’t fit together.

291
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Even in my, in my profession, they laugh.

292
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They used to not laugh at me, but that’s the wrong word.

293
00:22:08,221 –> 00:22:10,261
That’s along the wrong expression.

294
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Because I was too good that they could laugh in my face.

295
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Maybe they were mumbling behind
my back, but that’s how I saw it.

296
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Hey, humanity, or be a good human being, a fair
guy, being a nice guy, being a friendly guy.

297
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You can be tough as nails and you can
be a fierce competitor and still be.

298
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Live after this, these values, it fits
together like perfectly like a letter
custom made leather glove over your hand.

299
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So, and that’s what I stand for.

300
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And that’s, that’s the reason some organizations
are winning more than others in my opinion.

301
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and how can you be blaming?

302
00:22:44,916 –> 00:22:46,896
And that’s something that we might want to change.

303
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Every word it’s that that’s pointing things.

304
00:22:49,731 –> 00:22:51,171
That I, it’s not my fault.

305
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It’s their fault.

306
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It’s always waiting for somebody
else to take care of things.

307
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Right.

308
00:22:58,238 –> 00:23:03,428
Well, I mean, that was always where I was really
impressed by I’ve never seen you blame others.

309
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you talk, rationally about your
performance and your team’s performance.

310
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And I guess also by that you were
looking at where you’re able to improve.

311
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Whereas, of course, when you blame
the others, you cannot improve.

312
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So this is at least how I understood it.

313
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this humbleness you know, to, to be so true.

314
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To yourself.

315
00:23:23,254 –> 00:23:30,870
So I find it very interesting and also when it comes to,
to failure, I guess, so you talked about failure before.

316
00:23:30,870 –> 00:23:33,752
It’s a very important part in in sports.

317
00:23:33,872 –> 00:23:44,697
So, I I’d be happy if you could elaborate a bit on that
and maybe whether some turning points in your life,
in, in sports or in your private life that led you to.

318
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Yup.

319
00:23:47,132 –> 00:23:51,482
Well, what you were saying before I answered
this question, what were were saying before?

320
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I made so many mistakes in my, in my life,
in my career as a, as a player, as a person.

321
00:23:58,522 –> 00:24:19,693
And taking this kind of responsibility to step in front
of the camera and talk about failure after you lost, for
example that was something that, that came with being
in that position as a captain, for example, as a leader
where usually the leader steps in front, when things
go bad, it doesn’t matter if it’s his fault or not.

322
00:24:19,873 –> 00:24:23,683
He, he S he protects the weak links.

323
00:24:24,898 –> 00:24:29,518
So the person doing that has to,
has to have this kind of strength.

324
00:24:29,698 –> 00:24:31,228
I didn’t have that strength all the time.

325
00:24:31,288 –> 00:24:33,298
I learned and through practicing that.

326
00:24:33,298 –> 00:24:39,208
So putting my face in that camera and screwing up
interviews, for example, and saying stupid things.

327
00:24:39,208 –> 00:24:40,528
And I did that too.

328
00:24:40,528 –> 00:24:45,538
I made a big mistake as a, as a captain
when I was really, really disappointed.

329
00:24:45,587 –> 00:24:50,701
After world championship, for example,
in Austria, we, we played a plate.

330
00:24:51,631 –> 00:25:13,155
Three world championships in, in Austria, throughout
my career, too, in the, in the highest level in the
April and one in the B, where we went up again to the
highest division and obviously winning was fun, but
the losing the going down when we, when we lost at
home, And we did not get, I felt we didn’t get the
support from the crowd throughout the tournament.

331
00:25:13,208 –> 00:25:19,328
At the end, you know, playing in Austria and getting booed
when you lose it’s something that hurt really bad to.

332
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all players.

333
00:25:19,988 –> 00:25:23,348
And I was really frustrated and I let
that frustration out a little bit.

334
00:25:23,348 –> 00:25:28,418
In one interview, I said, I was really disappointed
by not getting the support from the crowd.

335
00:25:28,988 –> 00:25:37,463
And obviously that was my, that was a big mistake
saying that because there’s different perspectives
from everything, but from my perspective, Situation.

336
00:25:37,463 –> 00:25:39,323
I was really hurt, but that was, wasn’t a good leader.

337
00:25:40,103 –> 00:25:43,463
And that way I got a lot of critic criticism for that.

338
00:25:43,523 –> 00:25:52,793
And, uh, I told myself I’m not to never
gonna make that mistake again, that I act
out of pure emotion without taking that time.

339
00:25:52,823 –> 00:25:58,573
If, if I’m too emotional, Don’t give an
answer or say, let’s talk about it tomorrow.

340
00:25:58,603 –> 00:26:04,273
It’s a lot better from a leadership perspective or from a
perspective of making a decision, an important decision.

341
00:26:04,633 –> 00:26:09,193
So, so I failed in that regard many times.

342
00:26:09,233 –> 00:26:14,832
That’s the introduction of the answer of the,
of the, of this your question about failure.

343
00:26:15,582 –> 00:26:17,712
I mean, who likes to fail?

344
00:26:18,507 –> 00:26:18,897
Right.

345
00:26:18,987 –> 00:26:19,137
Yeah.

346
00:26:20,097 –> 00:26:22,107
It’s so much more fun winning than failing.

347
00:26:22,107 –> 00:26:26,427
If I could choose, I would choose
winning over failing every time.

348
00:26:26,757 –> 00:26:38,127
But knowing from what I know, and I don’t think
it’s enough to read a line or a quote that fails
fast, fail, fail forward, and this kind of stuff.

349
00:26:38,157 –> 00:26:41,157
It’s something that you have to feel for me.

350
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And.

351
00:26:42,055 –> 00:26:50,815
I made this, made this a habit, finding out
that through, getting a feel for something
and attach some kind of emotion to it.

352
00:26:51,805 –> 00:26:55,195
And, uh, analyzing what kind of effort did I put in?

353
00:26:55,178 –> 00:26:59,448
What did I do in order to succeed and what didn’t I do.

354
00:27:00,268 –> 00:27:01,498
Because that was the result.

355
00:27:01,498 –> 00:27:02,338
It was kind of failure.

356
00:27:02,338 –> 00:27:03,478
What could I influence?

357
00:27:03,478 –> 00:27:08,278
What, what, uh, what was I not able
to influence and trying that anyway.

358
00:27:08,308 –> 00:27:10,738
Even if I’m insecure, I’m not ready.

359
00:27:10,738 –> 00:27:11,368
I’m not ready.

360
00:27:11,368 –> 00:27:11,878
I don’t know.

361
00:27:11,878 –> 00:27:12,988
I don’t know what should I do it?

362
00:27:13,018 –> 00:27:16,588
What, what I, what can I lose
if I do, what do I look stupid?

363
00:27:16,798 –> 00:27:18,988
What were the other, what will the other people think?

364
00:27:19,198 –> 00:27:20,548
What will my family think?

365
00:27:20,548 –> 00:27:21,928
What will my friends think?

366
00:27:22,138 –> 00:27:27,748
What will the people think that I don’t even know, but
their opinion, so many times seems to be so impatient.

367
00:27:30,073 –> 00:27:40,963
I try to actively fight against those kinds of feelings
and do it anyway when it was something that I felt
strongly in my, I need to do this, I need to do this.

368
00:27:41,049 –> 00:27:46,347
What happens by forcing myself to fail
or to put myself into that position?

369
00:27:47,427 –> 00:27:53,457
Obviously I did fail many times, but one really
important thing happened if I, you know, and I learned.

370
00:27:54,402 –> 00:27:56,682
Through my years, I can speak about it now.

371
00:27:56,736 –> 00:28:06,241
Well, many times you find out that what you thought would
be so, ugly or so painful, if that happens then, oh my God.

372
00:28:06,781 –> 00:28:08,161
It’s not that bad after all.

373
00:28:09,151 –> 00:28:14,821
So what was I worried about in the first
place, then you find a way how to get better.

374
00:28:16,601 –> 00:28:18,191
And then you can make a system out of it.

375
00:28:18,731 –> 00:28:21,221
So go practice, go practice.

376
00:28:21,461 –> 00:28:29,891
And when I come from a tactical standpoint with failure, for
example, and with fears, many times people fail and failing.

377
00:28:29,891 –> 00:28:31,601
I mean also is not trying.

378
00:28:32,886 –> 00:28:38,436
Not even trying stuff and not succeeding because
that’s learning really, but not trying stuff.

379
00:28:38,466 –> 00:28:47,606
That’s, that’s the biggest failure for
me not being able to get over that first
hurdle because of whatever excuse you can.

380
00:28:48,751 –> 00:28:54,931
Is that once you start practicing uncomfortable
things probably stay uncomfortable all your life.

381
00:28:55,561 –> 00:28:58,591
I mean, I hate cold showers, for example, I hate it.

382
00:28:59,011 –> 00:29:05,431
I don’t like it, even though my name is cold
in English and Cade, but I don’t like it.

383
00:29:05,431 –> 00:29:07,081
I’m freezing all the time.

384
00:29:07,112 –> 00:29:11,702
So, but by practicing, taking those
cold shower, If there’s only cold water.

385
00:29:11,702 –> 00:29:14,762
I mean, if I want to get clean, I have to use the shower.

386
00:29:14,942 –> 00:29:16,472
So I’m going to get used to it.

387
00:29:16,472 –> 00:29:24,632
So I’m raising my level, my pain resistance
level, and it’s still uncomfortable, but on
this level and not on this level anymore.

388
00:29:24,842 –> 00:29:32,222
So, or it’s the fear of public speaking,
for example, speaking in front of group,
it kind of podcasts that we’re doing.

389
00:29:32,642 –> 00:29:34,762
I mean, if I, if you realize that that.

390
00:29:35,987 –> 00:29:37,337
And you know that better than I do.

391
00:29:37,337 –> 00:29:43,757
I think top three fears, biggest fears of people
all over the world is the fear of public speaking.

392
00:29:45,017 –> 00:29:45,647
Think about it.

393
00:29:46,517 –> 00:29:53,237
And okay, some people are born with the natural ability
to speak, but still you have to learn that kind of art.

394
00:29:53,267 –> 00:30:04,547
There’s a lot of things to learn about it, but some people
are really, they’re great if they’re talking to themselves,
but then suddenly you stand there, stand somewhere and
there, you know, knees are shaking, cold, sweat, whatever.

395
00:30:05,987 –> 00:30:19,187
But if I know that from, from a competitive
standpoint, that seven out of 10 or nine out of
10, people would not like to stand on stage where
I am right now, or have this microphone in my hand.

396
00:30:19,877 –> 00:30:23,857
Well, what kind of advantage would that give me
if I would be that one person who gets better.

397
00:30:25,497 –> 00:30:27,657
You don’t have to be perfect, but practice that.

398
00:30:27,657 –> 00:30:33,567
So that’s like, and that’s how I see attacking your
fears, the fears that, that, that give you an edge.

399
00:30:33,567 –> 00:30:35,277
For example, you really want to get better.

400
00:30:35,277 –> 00:30:37,437
You need it as a skill in your professional.

401
00:30:37,437 –> 00:30:38,427
Worry, want to go?

402
00:30:39,147 –> 00:30:39,987
You’re going to need that.

403
00:30:40,017 –> 00:30:44,007
Then that’s, you know, people don’t, I
don’t think people ask the right questions.

404
00:30:44,007 –> 00:30:47,217
What do I have to bring to the
table in order to reach my goals?

405
00:30:47,217 –> 00:30:50,997
For example, if that still is something that you don’t like.

406
00:30:52,127 –> 00:30:53,687
You better get practicing, buddy.

407
00:30:54,377 –> 00:30:57,047
Otherwise life is not fair.

408
00:30:57,047 –> 00:30:59,417
Sometimes life is competition sometimes.

409
00:30:59,417 –> 00:31:02,837
So I see it from that standpoint too.

410
00:31:03,377 –> 00:31:16,247
So embracing this kind of failure is something that is
not fun, but it’s, you can develop a great system of
taking little steps and getting comfortable with it.

411
00:31:17,807 –> 00:31:19,727
So that’s what I had to do in sports.

412
00:31:19,727 –> 00:31:24,557
So obviously that was a little, little, uh,
easier for me and then being embedded in the team.

413
00:31:24,543 –> 00:31:27,554
That’s the great things about the great thing about a team.

414
00:31:28,034 –> 00:31:35,474
There is different roles and sometimes one
person is really good and hot and in the
flow and the other person is struggling.

415
00:31:35,504 –> 00:31:36,344
He can be hired.

416
00:31:37,019 –> 00:31:43,229
The team can take, you know, take care of one or
two in the pack, if they’re not great at that time.

417
00:31:43,259 –> 00:31:48,869
And then it shifts again, energy shifts, and
then there’s this maybe that’s flow moments
where everybody, everything is just rolling.

418
00:31:50,429 –> 00:32:01,769
And then there is the moment when nothing works when
there’s total system breakdown and then it went and
then it gets really interesting about a failure.

419
00:32:01,799 –> 00:32:02,909
And usually that happens.

420
00:32:04,139 –> 00:32:11,729
When, uh, you think you’re better than you are and you
stop doing what made you successful in the first place?

421
00:32:12,449 –> 00:32:14,279
You’re a little bit too full of yourself.

422
00:32:14,609 –> 00:32:17,639
You know, sometimes it happened to me also.

423
00:32:18,299 –> 00:32:22,109
So, and then, and then there is so many
questions you can ask, what do you fall back?

424
00:32:22,109 –> 00:32:27,539
And that’s, that’s, that’s really the
crisis that we have in our world right now.

425
00:32:29,574 –> 00:32:40,344
Um, whereas so much fear and there’s so much uncertainty,
which was there before the uncertainty, but not
in the, in the, not in the public awareness maybe.

426
00:32:40,394 –> 00:32:43,904
And now everybody’s aware, oh my
God, it could be different tomorrow.

427
00:32:43,934 –> 00:32:45,134
What’s going to happen tomorrow.

428
00:32:46,034 –> 00:32:51,564
And, uh, and that’s where I think some athletes
are who comes from this kind of competitive.

429
00:32:52,759 –> 00:33:06,379
Have a great advantage if you develop those kinds of
skills, because dealing with crisis and preparing for
the moment that you cannot predict is always, it has to
really, really rely on the basics back to the basics.

430
00:33:06,379 –> 00:33:18,809
That’s what the, you know, when we play a championship
games, for example, when those big games come
windows big gains come, there is, there’s a
group of people who are, who are suddenly afraid.

431
00:33:19,719 –> 00:33:31,749
Losing in that one big game and then it’s
the other group and they say, you know, we
cannot, we cannot lose what we don’t have.

432
00:33:32,709 –> 00:33:36,429
We just keep going, which is do what we do every day.

433
00:33:36,969 –> 00:33:42,279
We go back to the basics, we keep doing what
we’re doing and I have this great, great, great.

434
00:33:42,356 –> 00:33:43,886
For me, a great story in my head.

435
00:33:44,951 –> 00:33:45,491
Cause I fell.

436
00:33:45,491 –> 00:33:54,851
We fell into that trap too, with the, with the
teams when we didn’t lose, when we didn’t win
finals, we’re like, okay, okay, today we’re going
to have the best day, the best game of our life.

437
00:33:54,881 –> 00:33:56,531
And we were not going to get scored on.

438
00:33:56,531 –> 00:33:57,851
We’re not going to, let’s not do this.

439
00:33:57,851 –> 00:33:58,691
Let’s not do this.

440
00:33:58,961 –> 00:34:01,691
And we were too tight and editing
just played into joy the moment.

441
00:34:01,691 –> 00:34:06,341
And we lost for example, and I had this, I
have this story in my head when I was watching.

442
00:34:06,373 –> 00:34:09,059
And I might be totally wrong,
but that’s the impression I had.

443
00:34:09,239 –> 00:34:11,629
I was watching Dominique team, the tennis.

444
00:34:12,644 –> 00:34:13,694
Play against nubuck.

445
00:34:13,694 –> 00:34:17,031
Djokovich in the final, in, the
Australian open a couple years.

446
00:34:18,231 –> 00:34:23,454
Might be, he has not won a huge grand
slam title back then or a huge tournament.

447
00:34:24,084 –> 00:34:28,434
And, uh, and he was dominating a joke,
which I think he was number one that time.

448
00:34:28,434 –> 00:34:32,454
And obviously he was probably number one
most of the time in the last couple of years.

449
00:34:33,204 –> 00:34:36,054
So when he was dominating such
a great player, so much energy.

450
00:34:36,659 –> 00:34:41,582
And joker, which did some unusual
things for his kind of, style.

451
00:34:41,882 –> 00:34:43,082
He lost his temper.

452
00:34:43,082 –> 00:34:45,492
Sometimes he did not seem concentrated.

453
00:34:45,512 –> 00:34:47,462
He was arguing with him a little bit.

454
00:34:47,462 –> 00:34:57,712
So it was out of, out of his, out of his soul
and a little bit, his body language was different
and the other guy was just doing things and he
was taking all the big shots and he was winning.

455
00:34:57,922 –> 00:35:02,632
So he was dominating, but Joe quiches stayed in
it, but you know, it was on the verge of losing.

456
00:35:04,707 –> 00:35:06,177
The longer the game went on.

457
00:35:06,177 –> 00:35:11,907
There were those crucial moments came
and Dominic team did not hit the winner.

458
00:35:13,817 –> 00:35:16,907
And he was like, whoa, it was, it was so close.

459
00:35:17,057 –> 00:35:18,017
One of the big shots.

460
00:35:18,707 –> 00:35:26,357
And that was the moment where I could feel
from my experience where the one guy, the
real champion who knew how it felt to win.

461
00:35:26,747 –> 00:35:30,377
He kind of reached focused and
said, Hey, what am God’s name?

462
00:35:30,377 –> 00:35:30,947
Am I doing it?

463
00:35:31,947 –> 00:35:33,657
Refocus back to the basics.

464
00:35:34,527 –> 00:35:49,977
It was like two breaths, two times breathing one
little break, not, not arguing anymore, not, not
throwing anything, you know, not, not making big
moves, just playing basic highest level basic.

465
00:35:51,647 –> 00:35:55,127
And the other guys started doing okay,
the next one I have to hit the next one.

466
00:35:55,337 –> 00:35:56,807
I really want to hit the next one.

467
00:35:57,077 –> 00:35:59,927
And he was taking risks and he was failing again.

468
00:36:00,227 –> 00:36:01,937
I was like, oh, he’s No.

469
00:36:01,937 –> 00:36:02,807
I’m not going to make it.

470
00:36:02,897 –> 00:36:08,417
Well, he started to have this inner struggle, the
one guy just relaxed and did the simple things.

471
00:36:08,687 –> 00:36:09,737
And yet a guy tried to.

472
00:36:11,127 –> 00:36:15,837
And we’re starting in my opinion to get afraid,
but I’m not, I’m not going to win again.

473
00:36:16,317 –> 00:36:17,997
Uh, I don’t want to lose this one.

474
00:36:18,177 –> 00:36:20,157
So obviously we know how it turned out.

475
00:36:20,217 –> 00:36:21,717
The big champion he won.

476
00:36:21,747 –> 00:36:28,047
He kept holding on and the young champion, the
former, the future champion, he was not there yet.

477
00:36:28,497 –> 00:36:29,667
He was not there yet.

478
00:36:29,697 –> 00:36:33,777
He didn’t have the basic to fall
back into when he had to refocus.

479
00:36:34,227 –> 00:36:38,457
And that’s, I think that’s one of the
secrets that how to get out of a crisis.

480
00:36:40,467 –> 00:36:45,927
What’s your base level to realize, Hey, I’m
out of line, take a deep breath and refocus.

481
00:36:46,287 –> 00:36:59,652
And that’s in a nutshell, what the story of failure
for me and how I approach this means, and I had some,
some failures in my, in my career or some setbacks, not
failures, but real setbacks were for example, a big.

482
00:37:00,927 –> 00:37:01,527
Occurred.

483
00:37:02,247 –> 00:37:07,527
When I was making a name for myself again in Germany,
I played for the Coda Haya, Columbian sharks.

484
00:37:08,577 –> 00:37:10,487
And I felt like, yeah.

485
00:37:10,497 –> 00:37:19,107
this is, I came back from the states and I wanted
to start a big career again in, in, in Europe
and perfect setting for me in, in, uh, in Colona.

486
00:37:19,107 –> 00:37:19,857
I love the city.

487
00:37:19,857 –> 00:37:20,487
I love the team.

488
00:37:20,487 –> 00:37:21,507
I loved the guys, but then I got.

489
00:37:22,752 –> 00:37:32,062
In Switzerland when it played the Spangler cup,
that famous, tournament, uh, after Christmas
and I had my, my left arm, my elbow in a cast.

490
00:37:33,217 –> 00:37:42,397
Six weeks and operation, and a little argument
with the, with the coach and with the sport
director back then, because we made the
decision that I had to take this operation.

491
00:37:42,437 –> 00:37:46,207
I trusted the doctors, so they were
pissed at me, but I was out of the team.

492
00:37:46,267 –> 00:37:47,257
Couldn’t practice with the team.

493
00:37:48,042 –> 00:37:55,812
So, but I really had to push really,
really, really hard for myself, but the
comeback, you know, it, we had a good season.

494
00:37:55,812 –> 00:37:57,882
The team was winning and we started the playoffs.

495
00:37:57,882 –> 00:38:01,392
I think we were leading after the regular season.

496
00:38:01,422 –> 00:38:05,532
I, I should call that statistic guy, you know, one of those.

497
00:38:05,952 –> 00:38:07,692
So, and we lost in the first round.

498
00:38:07,722 –> 00:38:09,822
I just made it back in the lineup.

499
00:38:11,002 –> 00:38:11,902
For the first round.

500
00:38:12,082 –> 00:38:14,002
So I made it back.

501
00:38:14,332 –> 00:38:15,352
I saved the season.

502
00:38:15,532 –> 00:38:24,082
I practiced, I worked my butt off to get
back in the lineup and we made it and we
lost in two games straight first round out.

503
00:38:24,292 –> 00:38:27,202
I had two great games, successful myself.

504
00:38:27,262 –> 00:38:30,352
I score two goals and had a couple
of cysts, but the season, yeah.

505
00:38:31,732 –> 00:38:34,162
So it was a big failure for the whole team.

506
00:38:35,032 –> 00:38:38,152
So I’m like, oh my God, what,
what, what kind of season is that?

507
00:38:38,182 –> 00:38:39,952
You know, that’s going to break all the momentum.

508
00:38:40,072 –> 00:38:42,796
I didn’t get a new contract with the cologne sharks.

509
00:38:42,796 –> 00:38:43,978
They kept me waiting.

510
00:38:43,978 –> 00:38:46,588
They, they changed a lot of players and it was a big, upset.

511
00:38:47,128 –> 00:38:50,788
And, uh, I was like, I was really down
what’s what’s going to happen now with me.

512
00:38:50,788 –> 00:38:51,418
Where can I go?

513
00:38:52,138 –> 00:38:57,789
And I ended up signing in Sweden and Sweden for me failure.

514
00:38:57,822 –> 00:39:01,452
There was like, what, what, what
are the, what do they want from me?

515
00:39:01,452 –> 00:39:07,902
That was like the highest level that I had
the highest respect for, for the Swedish,
the Scandinavian and the Russian hockey.

516
00:39:07,902 –> 00:39:12,089
That’s how, where I grew up, my idols
were, from Russia and from Sweden.

517
00:39:13,979 –> 00:39:17,446
And the best team there, signs me up and, and, and calls me.

518
00:39:17,446 –> 00:39:20,656
And I was, I was a little, not
scared, but I was intimidated.

519
00:39:21,199 –> 00:39:25,309
I was supposed to be a gold score up there and
I got the role of, of, of, of goal scoring.

520
00:39:25,399 –> 00:39:29,879
so uh, long story short the reason
why I had the best year in my career.

521
00:39:31,344 –> 00:39:38,664
Came from that injury that I had in December and from
thinking my career’s gonna, I’m going to kill my career now.

522
00:39:39,114 –> 00:39:56,644
But by working hard, like really pushing, pushing,
pushing, pushing with the help of the other coaches,
big setback at the end of the year, I ended up signing
for this team and they signed me only because they
knew me from when I was 16, 17, 18, 19 years in.

523
00:39:58,114 –> 00:40:00,484
Because they were watching anywhere
playing in Austria back then.

524
00:40:00,484 –> 00:40:03,814
And those were the coaches then
a less than impression back then.

525
00:40:03,814 –> 00:40:06,514
And they followed my career and they followed me for years.

526
00:40:06,994 –> 00:40:14,434
And then that moment was there when I got
the chance to play for them, big pressure
first Austrian in that league, in that team.

527
00:40:15,784 –> 00:40:22,504
And I had the best career at the best year of my career, but
the first time I had a chance to practice for six months.

528
00:40:23,939 –> 00:40:24,539
Straight.

529
00:40:24,659 –> 00:40:28,499
I was strong as an ox for me, you know,
I wasn’t the best shape of my life.

530
00:40:28,529 –> 00:40:35,849
Usually you play so much and then you play
the world championships and you you’ve
finished your career in the middle of may.

531
00:40:35,849 –> 00:40:39,209
For example, you have like two weeks break.

532
00:40:39,749 –> 00:40:43,229
And then the season starts against,
there is no chance to recover.

533
00:40:43,229 –> 00:40:48,596
There’s no chance to really take care of,
of some injuries that pile up over the year.

534
00:40:48,596 –> 00:40:50,576
Yet you just keep practicing, just keep it.

535
00:40:51,211 –> 00:40:52,981
Yeah, holding a forum.

536
00:40:52,981 –> 00:40:56,761
And I was, there was some years
I was exhausted after the season.

537
00:40:56,761 –> 00:40:59,161
I was, I was a wreck, really.

538
00:40:59,161 –> 00:41:00,481
It was a long year.

539
00:41:01,081 –> 00:41:03,331
And then you start practicing again and you keep pushing.

540
00:41:03,541 –> 00:41:11,541
So No, wonder that guys are getting tired over the
years and that sometimes injuries occur when there
is mental fatigue and then the body breaks down.

541
00:41:11,991 –> 00:41:15,291
So, but this time I had a huge failure or abuse setback.

542
00:41:16,331 –> 00:41:27,521
If huge defeat, but I had the chance to build
something for six months and that foundation,
it ignited the highlight part of my career.

543
00:41:28,151 –> 00:41:33,281
I could, I took that momentum and build something for years.

544
00:41:33,281 –> 00:41:38,531
That’s when I became this kind of winner
again, in different role in my team.

545
00:41:39,071 –> 00:41:40,571
And then I had the next failure.

546
00:41:41,951 –> 00:41:46,391
Having a terrible season being really
prepared, but nothing works the whole year.

547
00:41:46,391 –> 00:41:56,471
And I did not know how to break it for a long
time, but by taking that step back again,
changing my direction, I became a captain.

548
00:41:57,671 –> 00:41:59,531
I took the next stage in my career.

549
00:41:59,561 –> 00:42:05,501
And, and I was the leader of a team by myself when
we won a championship with the Vienna capitals.

550
00:42:06,011 –> 00:42:09,623
that was a huge thing for that
organization winning after 43 years.

551
00:42:10,763 –> 00:42:13,853
So, and I played injured and I had really.

552
00:42:13,853 –> 00:42:18,683
had to, I had to bring something to the table to
hold the team together, to put the team together.

553
00:42:18,713 –> 00:42:19,853
So that was the next stage.

554
00:42:20,123 –> 00:42:23,753
And so every time something huge
and bad happened in my career.

555
00:42:23,792 –> 00:42:30,653
I came back stronger because of those kinds of uh, and
this kind of came, Hey, I can make a system out of this.

556
00:42:30,863 –> 00:42:35,603
So no matter what happens in my
life now, I live in the moment.

557
00:42:35,663 –> 00:42:36,233
I know.

558
00:42:36,953 –> 00:42:39,473
Led me to this, what I put into it.

559
00:42:39,503 –> 00:42:56,243
And if something happens, I find a way to start over again,
to recalibrate, so to speak and to put system into work and
saying, okay, except, except accepting that and accepting
that things turn out different than you expect sometimes.

560
00:42:57,113 –> 00:43:03,533
But then you shift you shift, you take what you
learned from that lesson and you shift don’t.

561
00:43:03,563 –> 00:43:04,763
Whatever happened happened.

562
00:43:05,948 –> 00:43:07,718
Learn from it and move on.

563
00:43:08,456 –> 00:43:18,613
So basically what I’m hearing, what you say throughout
our conversation now is really that the basics
the fundamentals are really, really important.

564
00:43:18,673 –> 00:43:28,525
And once you have a good fundament by
practicing the basics, basically that this is.

565
00:43:29,315 –> 00:43:32,924
In a way through that championships emerge.

566
00:43:33,254 –> 00:43:39,311
Not only that, of course, but that’s like the
baseline, because this is what you always fall back to.

567
00:43:39,461 –> 00:43:43,473
And this is what carry is you when
it’s, when it matters, basically.

568
00:43:44,123 –> 00:43:44,333
Yeah.

569
00:43:44,393 –> 00:43:46,703
that’s the, that’s the way, that’s the way I see it.

570
00:43:46,703 –> 00:43:54,623
And if I really think, if I think about it, if I
would, if I would have a company with the highest step.

571
00:43:55,368 –> 00:43:57,858
And there’s different roles in
every company, different things.

572
00:43:57,888 –> 00:44:04,368
Some are more, are bigger jobs than others, for example,
but every little details, every little detail matters.

573
00:44:04,728 –> 00:44:06,498
You want to have the best person for the job.

574
00:44:06,648 –> 00:44:09,228
You want to have the best woman, the best guy.

575
00:44:09,588 –> 00:44:19,068
If it’s sound, if it’s, if it’s, if it’s video,
if it’s accounting, whatever it is, you want
to have the best possible person for your team.

576
00:44:20,793 –> 00:44:28,071
And there’s lots of them and it might be the same level
that you have to bring on like for every other company.

577
00:44:28,491 –> 00:44:34,041
But for this job in my company, I don’t
take anybody because anybody can do the job.

578
00:44:34,101 –> 00:44:35,781
I want to take the best possible person.

579
00:44:36,261 –> 00:44:43,611
So who’s got the basic skills to deliver something
simple and really with pride and with equity.

580
00:44:44,346 –> 00:44:48,066
Every day and not only, and that’s,
that’s the whole, that’s the thing.

581
00:44:48,066 –> 00:44:58,836
What, what, uh, what separates winners and pros
from amateurs really in my opinion, is not, you
know, succeeding once is something it’s great.

582
00:44:59,016 –> 00:45:00,306
It’s hard to achieve.

583
00:45:00,786 –> 00:45:08,856
And it’s, you know, hats off to anybody who, who, who
wins in anything, but bringing something every day.

584
00:45:09,666 –> 00:45:13,446
On a certain level and repeating and repeating that’s.

585
00:45:13,446 –> 00:45:26,496
When I get goosebumps, when I see people delivering
for 10, 15, 20 years in a high pressure, high
performance environment, because then, you
know, those are the people you have to talk to.

586
00:45:26,496 –> 00:45:27,726
What are they doing?

587
00:45:27,726 –> 00:45:31,026
Who is on their team, who is on their team.

588
00:45:32,106 –> 00:45:34,731
If you talk to Sebastian, For example.

589
00:45:34,731 –> 00:45:39,201
And I practiced the, I saw him at
practice beside him a little bit.

590
00:45:39,201 –> 00:45:44,031
When I was playing for red bull in the red bull training
center, he was a young boy and I was with the hockey team.

591
00:45:44,106 –> 00:45:48,906
Very nice person, how I, I got to know
him, but I saw I followed his career.

592
00:45:48,906 –> 00:45:50,286
I liked, I really liked this guy.

593
00:45:50,466 –> 00:46:00,846
Well, who is a person like this hiring the best
possible therapist, the best possible nutritionist
for him, the best possible, whoever, what kind of PR.

594
00:46:01,551 –> 00:46:05,271
Lady or a guy, whatever, it’s
the best possible team for him.

595
00:46:05,451 –> 00:46:06,091
Anybody could.

596
00:46:07,056 –> 00:46:11,076
But he wants to have the best because
that’s what magic Johnson said.

597
00:46:11,076 –> 00:46:19,190
And I, I was part of a mastermind in, in, online, some time
ago and and he stepped on stage and he’s a huge businessman.

598
00:46:19,460 –> 00:46:23,747
And he said, you know, I got an advice from, from a friend.

599
00:46:24,347 –> 00:46:26,507
I wanted to meet a guy and learn from this guy.

600
00:46:26,507 –> 00:46:27,527
And I said, I need some help.

601
00:46:27,527 –> 00:46:32,597
And he gave me the telephone numbers of like
20, 30 guys that could be possible mentors.

602
00:46:33,827 –> 00:46:39,257
In business in this, in this, in this and whatever, and
finance in different aspects when he was still playing.

603
00:46:39,677 –> 00:46:48,257
So he called everybody, he said he called
everybody and he got to have lunch with
two thirds of those high profile people.

604
00:46:48,287 –> 00:46:53,627
Because just because he asked, that’s the first
thing, uh, w what are they going to talk to me?

605
00:46:53,627 –> 00:46:55,817
No, he just asked, Hey, do you have time for me?

606
00:46:55,817 –> 00:46:57,467
I wouldn’t learn from your experience.

607
00:46:57,707 –> 00:47:00,767
So they sat down and he said seven
or eight of them became his men.

608
00:47:01,862 –> 00:47:11,072
Until then, and set because you know what, I
don’t care the best test to run with the best
and this kind of who you want to learn from.

609
00:47:11,762 –> 00:47:19,022
If you get advice, learn from those people who
are already there, where you would like to be.

610
00:47:20,432 –> 00:47:24,962
And usually it goes the other way around that people get
advice from people who didn’t show up for themselves.

611
00:47:24,962 –> 00:47:25,622
So it didn’t have that.

612
00:47:26,747 –> 00:47:27,887
Inside the body.

613
00:47:27,947 –> 00:47:42,097
so I love therapists, for example, in my, you know,
as an athlete that got a lot of therapy and I love
those guys and girls who knew exactly how it felt, how
the pain felt that I’m feeling in my back right now
when they starting therapy, because they can relate.

614
00:47:42,186 –> 00:47:46,086
That was really important for me, that
kind of opened my eyes a little bit too.

615
00:47:46,086 –> 00:48:02,676
Is that, what kind of people are you surrounding
yourself with for even to you had that, that people that
have pride, they know their role, their accepted the
role, and do even the little things with excellence,
because that’s what makes the difference at the end.

616
00:48:04,301 –> 00:48:07,781
I had this key moment in my career when I was in Sweden.

617
00:48:07,781 –> 00:48:14,441
The first year we got, we won the championship in
Sweden and, uh, I told them it was unbelievable for me.

618
00:48:14,451 –> 00:48:22,001
I, I scored most goals in that season in, in, in, in
Sweden, which was a great achievement for my, for myself.

619
00:48:22,031 –> 00:48:22,091
Yeah.

620
00:48:22,686 –> 00:48:28,146
We won the championship, but everybody
was like really working for each other.

621
00:48:28,566 –> 00:48:32,586
And at the end it was the guys who didn’t
get the most ice time during the year.

622
00:48:32,586 –> 00:48:35,286
It was those guys who just got a
couple shifts who made a difference.

623
00:48:35,286 –> 00:48:43,886
You know, somebody gets hurt at the end and
they were ready to jump in and they blocked some
shots and they did little, a little things that
made a difference for us as a team that was.

624
00:48:45,756 –> 00:48:49,266
Year two as the reigning champions, we were so good.

625
00:48:49,476 –> 00:48:56,586
We had a great season again, and we came all the way
to the finals and we played against the , the Indians.

626
00:48:57,696 –> 00:49:02,046
And, uh, and we lost in game six against them in Florida.

627
00:49:02,436 –> 00:49:07,046
And if I looked back, if I looked at the pictures
and the, and the, the, the footage from back then.

628
00:49:07,756 –> 00:49:11,776
They had this, what we had the
year before this kind of, yeah.

629
00:49:12,136 –> 00:49:13,036
Everybody together.

630
00:49:13,036 –> 00:49:21,166
Like even the guys that didn’t play a second, they were
like, yeah, like they were on the ice themselves, the guy
just filling up the water bottles or opening the door.

631
00:49:21,166 –> 00:49:22,156
It doesn’t matter.

632
00:49:22,726 –> 00:49:23,596
It didn’t matter.

633
00:49:23,956 –> 00:49:30,196
And our side of the bench, even though we
were really disclosed, there were some hands.

634
00:49:31,536 –> 00:49:35,286
Underneath the boards because they did not get the ice time.

635
00:49:35,286 –> 00:49:39,126
They thought they deserved because they
didn’t play on the first power play.

636
00:49:39,846 –> 00:49:43,836
And when somebody scored, not everybody
was, you know, they were all cheering.

637
00:49:43,866 –> 00:49:44,286
Yes.

638
00:49:44,646 –> 00:49:47,946
And it was still great, but it was not with a full heart.

639
00:49:49,086 –> 00:49:51,066
So guess who won the championship?

640
00:49:51,876 –> 00:49:54,116
You know, and that’s the little
things it’s always the little.

641
00:49:55,691 –> 00:49:57,791
And that those were those key elements.

642
00:49:58,421 –> 00:50:00,821
And, and I still feel that in my body.

643
00:50:00,821 –> 00:50:06,611
And when I talk about it, it, it, it, you know,
I get emotional and I, I, I feel it on my skin.

644
00:50:07,061 –> 00:50:15,041
And I know, and I can respect that so
much when somebody else is creating this
kind of atmosphere for teams, for people.

645
00:50:15,911 –> 00:50:19,571
And I can respect my biggest opponent, EMF.

646
00:50:19,571 –> 00:50:21,881
I hate his guts privately.

647
00:50:22,906 –> 00:50:29,896
I wouldn’t go for a coffee or don’t want to
talk to him, but I can respect what kind of
effort somebody puts in order to be successful.

648
00:50:29,986 –> 00:50:33,766
I can respect that if there’s the right
values behind it, it doesn’t matter.

649
00:50:33,796 –> 00:50:37,426
I know what it takes or I, in that
field where I came from anyway.

650
00:50:38,326 –> 00:50:41,356
And, uh, and I think that’s makes
all the difference in the world.

651
00:50:44,210 –> 00:50:53,060
So I really like to know now you’re doing the championship
Academy and basically what I can hear from your experience.

652
00:50:53,120 –> 00:51:00,733
It’s all things that really, What you have shown
with your career becoming champion nine times.

653
00:51:00,853 –> 00:51:05,167
It’s not just Ark, but it’s the
effort that you put into it.

654
00:51:05,407 –> 00:51:13,080
And, the things that you talk about, I mean, those are
things that can be translated to all areas of life.

655
00:51:13,200 –> 00:51:19,320
And I’m really curious about your
championship it’s called championship Academy.

656
00:51:19,320 –> 00:51:20,400
or what is it called?

657
00:51:21,950 –> 00:51:22,490
Academy.

658
00:51:22,850 –> 00:51:24,290
In Champion’s mind the academy.

659
00:51:24,300 –> 00:51:31,380
is that the idea to how to translate your
knowledge of sports into life outside of sports?

660
00:51:31,380 –> 00:51:32,040
Or what is it.

661
00:51:33,310 –> 00:51:34,360
well, Champion’s mind.

662
00:51:34,390 –> 00:51:45,316
I use, I use those terms from the sports world
champions mindset and the champions mind academy, a real
champion for me is not a person who is doing sports.

663
00:51:45,365 –> 00:51:48,694
It could be anybody with a mindset.

664
00:51:50,444 –> 00:51:51,614
How can I help?

665
00:51:52,154 –> 00:51:57,824
What can I, what can I do to influence
taking, taking my life into my own hands?

666
00:51:57,824 –> 00:52:01,754
Being a good father, being a good
friend, being open to learning.

667
00:52:02,664 –> 00:52:10,181
Being open for discussion changing standpoints, listening
to different perspectives and making up your own mind.

668
00:52:10,211 –> 00:52:12,491
That’s, that’s a Champion’s mindset for me.

669
00:52:12,491 –> 00:52:26,231
That’s something to being able to adapt to contribute, but
also the willingness to perform, obviously the willingness
to bring the best out of you not selling yourself.

670
00:52:26,261 –> 00:52:30,041
That’s something that I use with
my, with my kids sometimes is.

671
00:52:30,971 –> 00:52:42,261
I would love to help you believe in yourselves, working
hard, not taking ownership and not selling yourself short.

672
00:52:42,651 –> 00:52:47,121
And I tell you what reason why,
because it’s, it’s such a good feeling.

673
00:52:47,155 –> 00:52:52,105
If you succeed in something, if you get better
at something, that’s how we get how you gain.

674
00:52:52,105 –> 00:52:53,455
Self-confidence.

675
00:52:54,420 –> 00:52:56,970
Starting from a certain point where you suck.

676
00:52:56,970 –> 00:52:58,290
Everybody sucks in the beginning.

677
00:52:58,290 –> 00:52:58,740
It doesn’t matter.

678
00:52:58,740 –> 00:53:04,380
The biggest stars, the best in the world in anything
they start somewhere and then they’d take it.

679
00:53:05,145 –> 00:53:10,005
Steps of progression and they have this
kind of, they develop this kind of feeling.

680
00:53:10,065 –> 00:53:10,965
I can do this.

681
00:53:11,025 –> 00:53:11,805
I’m good at it.

682
00:53:12,375 –> 00:53:22,515
And obviously they, they start, they have, well, if
you’re lucky, if you’re lucky, you have an environment
of people around you that push you and that, Hey, yes.

683
00:53:22,515 –> 00:53:22,695
Yeah.

684
00:53:22,725 –> 00:53:23,975
Keep going, keep going.

685
00:53:23,995 –> 00:53:24,645
You can do it.

686
00:53:24,645 –> 00:53:25,905
You can do it or helping.

687
00:53:26,595 –> 00:53:31,305
Not everybody is that lucky, but this
environment is at least as important.

688
00:53:31,433 –> 00:53:52,813
As it is, what you think in your own head, how you
talk to yourself, what you’re learning and what you
initially have in yourself, maybe, but also what he
gets from the outside and you, and there is many of us
and especially, especially the young, the younger, the,
the young generation needs a couple of things there.

689
00:53:53,768 –> 00:54:00,428
Unbelievable potential that energy that, that
I would like to call myself as I’m an investor.

690
00:54:00,458 –> 00:54:01,148
It sounds really good.

691
00:54:01,178 –> 00:54:02,378
I’m an investor right now.

692
00:54:02,408 –> 00:54:05,018
After my professional career,
as an athlete, I’m an investor.

693
00:54:05,018 –> 00:54:06,068
I invest in people.

694
00:54:06,728 –> 00:54:19,858
I invest in talent to ignite this kind of talent is the
most beautiful thing to see kids watching when they are
learning something and the kind of joy they develop when.

695
00:54:20,933 –> 00:54:27,203
Succeed in something falling down, getting up, falling down,
getting up, falling down, not thinking, Hey, I’m a loser.

696
00:54:27,203 –> 00:54:27,833
I can’t do it.

697
00:54:27,833 –> 00:54:31,613
The first try, you know, I want
to jump to step four already.

698
00:54:31,613 –> 00:54:33,533
Now I keep going to keep going and progressing.

699
00:54:33,533 –> 00:54:36,713
So what if you have you have something.

700
00:54:38,363 –> 00:54:49,073
Reinforces the positive things reinforces the learning
reinforces all the values that need, that you need
to develop or to have in order to be successful.

701
00:54:49,163 –> 00:54:49,583
Yes.

702
00:54:49,733 –> 00:54:50,873
To reach your goals.

703
00:54:51,173 –> 00:54:51,593
Yes.

704
00:54:52,013 –> 00:54:54,383
It doesn’t have anything to do with winning, with winning.

705
00:54:54,533 –> 00:55:06,463
It has to do with basic why you do something, but at the
same time, combine this with the practical things to stuff
that you can actually learn, because talent is something.

706
00:55:07,343 –> 00:55:10,943
Well, and that science tells us that that can be developed.

707
00:55:10,973 –> 00:55:19,703
It’s not, yeah, you are inherited, you inherit
some, some, uh, some kind of foundation,
how to perform in different sports.

708
00:55:19,703 –> 00:55:25,057
For example, just the way my physique is, for
example I’m probably not built to be a great.

709
00:55:26,752 –> 00:55:29,062
But I’m, I’m pretty muscular guy.

710
00:55:29,092 –> 00:55:30,952
I built muscle quickly.

711
00:55:31,149 –> 00:55:35,499
I can, uh, generate power with
my muscle fibers really quickly.

712
00:55:35,499 –> 00:55:44,109
So my ratio of a slow Twitch and fast Twitch
muscle fibers is in favor of sports where I
need to sprint, for example, be really fast.

713
00:55:44,109 –> 00:55:49,839
So there’s some science behind this and
there’s obviously I use what is inherited.

714
00:55:50,169 –> 00:55:52,209
It makes it with the science that.

715
00:55:53,229 –> 00:55:57,129
I can produce something that gives me
the edge in a competition, for example.

716
00:55:57,339 –> 00:56:07,929
So there is techniques I can putting the soft
factors together and using techniques to learn
something, to get better, to practice something.

717
00:56:08,139 –> 00:56:09,639
It totally makes sense for me.

718
00:56:09,969 –> 00:56:16,509
So from the, from in, in the, in the area that I
lived in for so many years, we practiced and analyzed.

719
00:56:18,279 –> 00:56:19,269
We practice everything.

720
00:56:19,599 –> 00:56:42,602
And now people are investing in, skills, training
and nutrition and everything, everything, everything,
everything, so much theory, but what is totally
forgotten and usually makes a difference is the way
you deal with pressure, the way to deal with somebody
that who doesn’t like you, how to approach it and how
to fit in the group, how to deal with the teacher.

721
00:56:42,632 –> 00:56:44,672
It doesn’t like you with the unfair coach.

722
00:56:46,602 –> 00:56:48,402
If I ask you, what are your values?

723
00:56:48,402 –> 00:56:49,632
What do you really stand for?

724
00:56:49,782 –> 00:56:54,572
I mean, how many people have to
think hard for many minutes before?

725
00:56:54,582 –> 00:57:02,322
It can give an honest answer because something that
you’re not dealing with, that stuff usually that
doesn’t have space, time and space in normal life.

726
00:57:03,432 –> 00:57:13,032
But at the end of the day in pressure
situations, as it always comes down to is
knowing yourself, having this identity, have you.

727
00:57:13,832 –> 00:57:16,022
A set of values that you want to live in.

728
00:57:16,712 –> 00:57:18,542
Um, having clear goals.

729
00:57:20,097 –> 00:57:22,077
In order to find some kind of direction.

730
00:57:22,077 –> 00:57:27,177
You want to go building the kind of environment
that you need and that supports you.

731
00:57:27,417 –> 00:57:28,917
That’s what professionals do.

732
00:57:29,337 –> 00:57:31,890
And that’s how professionals get successful.

733
00:57:32,070 –> 00:57:45,120
So we, if we grow up and we don’t have this
kind of knowledge and we don’t have this kind of
environment, everything is left to chance and, you
know, chances are sometimes it’s successful, but
many times people are frustrated, disappointed.

734
00:57:46,310 –> 00:57:51,680
Questioning themselves or like
myself in the middle of your life.

735
00:57:51,710 –> 00:57:55,310
You know what that’s when guys I’m
turning at turning 47, a couple of weeks.

736
00:57:55,640 –> 00:58:04,735
It’s a perfect, perfect age for the midlife,
the old midlife crisis, where a guy’s kind
of reminisce about what happened in her life.

737
00:58:04,765 –> 00:58:06,115
What have I done so far?

738
00:58:07,135 –> 00:58:09,475
And I took a conscious choice.

739
00:58:10,465 –> 00:58:15,973
To take things into my own hands and not
settling for less than I want to achieve.

740
00:58:15,990 –> 00:58:19,680
And that means like, okay, let’s go, let’s build something.

741
00:58:19,680 –> 00:58:21,900
And start from, from day one.

742
00:58:21,900 –> 00:58:25,560
I want to get this knowledge, who do
I need asking the right questions?

743
00:58:25,800 –> 00:58:26,580
Who am I?

744
00:58:26,880 –> 00:58:31,030
I had to do this the hard way
obviously, but I was ready for it.

745
00:58:31,050 –> 00:58:33,510
They had this ahead, this environment growing up.

746
00:58:34,320 –> 00:58:50,730
Knowledge and still had to start from zero, but, and
many people fail or are really hopeless in my age
when I look around unhappy, leaving, not leading, not
really happy lives, although they might be successful
on the outside on the inside is a different story.

747
00:58:51,240 –> 00:59:02,790
So what if we can give people young people, a
chance to learn stuff, to practice stuff early,
early on those life skills that are going to be me.

748
00:59:04,445 –> 00:59:13,805
And I want to put all the effort in that I can to
give this to the next generation, with everything
I have to offer or everything you have to offer.

749
00:59:13,805 –> 00:59:16,865
If they ask you for help, Hey, would you jump in searches?

750
00:59:17,195 –> 00:59:21,665
I have this mentorship course, and I have
this group of unbelievable young people.

751
00:59:22,685 –> 00:59:24,935
They would need your wisdom and your knowledge.

752
00:59:24,965 –> 00:59:29,135
Would you be willing to give it to them
and come for sure you would come and say.

753
00:59:30,555 –> 00:59:33,945
Anything I can give because it
feels so good to help somebody else.

754
00:59:34,125 –> 00:59:34,965
That’s an environment.

755
00:59:34,965 –> 00:59:43,755
I want to create this kind of championship team of
young people that want to reach their potential and
are willing to accept that it’s going to be hard.

756
00:59:44,355 –> 00:59:49,755
It’s going to be painful sometimes it’s not
only going to be uphill, but start investing.

757
00:59:49,755 –> 00:59:50,235
Now.

758
00:59:50,445 –> 00:59:53,175
That’s where my competition feely comes.

759
00:59:53,175 –> 00:59:56,685
You know, investing, investing, investing in yourself.

760
00:59:56,715 –> 00:59:57,645
It pays dividends.

761
00:59:58,543 –> 00:59:59,233
definitely.

762
00:59:59,348 –> 01:00:01,568
And that’s where the champions mighty academy comes from.

763
01:00:01,568 –> 01:00:03,098
You know, that, that kind of, okay.

764
01:00:04,058 –> 01:00:07,558
It’s a, it’s a knowledge hub,
really for people who want to Excel.

765
01:00:07,568 –> 01:00:21,818
And I started with working with young kids and I start
taking in leaders from who are already grown people
with a lot of responsibility, because there is this
generation of leaders coming that say, Hey, I’m open.

766
01:00:21,818 –> 01:00:22,688
I want to get better.

767
01:00:22,688 –> 01:00:24,518
I want, I have to get better.

768
01:00:24,518 –> 01:00:25,358
It’s I’m just stuck.

769
01:00:26,333 –> 01:00:31,283
And I had just had a talker and that’s the people
I’m really fascinated of a guy who sold this.

770
01:00:31,283 –> 01:00:34,553
It comes from Holland and, um,
a very successful entrepreneur.

771
01:00:34,823 –> 01:00:37,807
Who’s sold one of his companies 20 years ago.

772
01:00:38,017 –> 01:00:43,447
And he financially it was, he was all set, but he was
trying to be a mentor and building different companies.

773
01:00:43,837 –> 01:00:46,177
And he said, you know, I have a problem right now.

774
01:00:46,177 –> 01:00:47,137
I’m 60.

775
01:00:47,437 –> 01:00:51,018
And all my peers are asking me,
what, what the hell are you doing?

776
01:00:51,018 –> 01:00:56,178
You should be on your sailing boat, or you
should be enjoying the fruit of your life.

777
01:00:56,208 –> 01:00:57,948
You know, you’ve worked hard, you’ve been successful.

778
01:00:57,948 –> 01:00:58,608
What are you doing?

779
01:00:59,238 –> 01:01:01,278
And he said, you know, Hey, I’m just starting.

780
01:01:01,278 –> 01:01:02,118
I’m 60 years old.

781
01:01:02,853 –> 01:01:05,673
I don’t know how to deal with this age thing.

782
01:01:05,659 –> 01:01:11,358
I have to find a new environment of people because
I feel like it has so much to give what an attitude.

783
01:01:11,358 –> 01:01:11,628
Right?

784
01:01:11,928 –> 01:01:12,648
What an attitude.

785
01:01:13,233 –> 01:01:15,353
definitely beautiful.

786
01:01:15,473 –> 01:01:36,989
So basically when to sum it up, uh, from my perspective,
it’s the academy is really a place where people
learn how to think like a champion, how to act like
a champion and lay out the whole life in a way with
a human heart, but a competitiveness to do something.

787
01:01:38,749 –> 01:01:40,909
I’m a dreamer, but I also want to.

788
01:01:42,289 –> 01:01:45,739
Winning is fun and life is not always fair.

789
01:01:45,829 –> 01:01:52,099
It’s I think it’s important that, that you also
accept the negative things in life and you’re ready.

790
01:01:52,099 –> 01:02:05,057
And then once you’re ready and you train you,
you have a definite choice you can make at one
point and you can always choose what side you’re
choosing and it should be, it should be a conscious
decision to do the good things and to the right.

791
01:02:06,157 –> 01:02:09,457
And if you do the right things,
constantly good things will happen.

792
01:02:09,967 –> 01:02:10,477
I mean, right.

793
01:02:10,477 –> 01:02:10,747
Thanks.

794
01:02:10,747 –> 01:02:13,237
You always have different perspectives of course.

795
01:02:13,687 –> 01:02:28,591
But if it comes from the right from the right place in
yourself has a lot of, lot to do with awareness and the
champions mind academy should be a place for people who
want to learn, who wants to explore where they can go.

796
01:02:28,621 –> 01:02:30,241
So I started with this mentoring.

797
01:02:31,081 –> 01:02:37,021
It’s not that I’m the teacher who teaches everything
and you just sit there and receive knowledge.

798
01:02:37,621 –> 01:02:50,641
It’s something that where I share experience, I
bring in experience from other professionals, from
people who were successful in whatever day and
learn from their failures and tell their stories.

799
01:02:50,641 –> 01:02:54,331
So the young generation can make their own faults.

800
01:02:54,691 –> 01:02:57,271
So they only, the only shortcut.

801
01:02:58,726 –> 01:03:03,376
Did you get access to information from real life?

802
01:03:03,376 –> 01:03:07,906
Not only theory, but from real life
people who’ve been there and done that.

803
01:03:08,356 –> 01:03:11,626
And now you go and do it by yourself.

804
01:03:11,686 –> 01:03:12,526
I like it.

805
01:03:12,556 –> 01:03:14,266
It’s a little bit like a, I liked it.

806
01:03:14,266 –> 01:03:15,826
Montas Maria Montessori.

807
01:03:15,826 –> 01:03:18,286
When she said I help other people do it themselves.

808
01:03:19,351 –> 01:03:22,531
So that’s what I started with my mentoring programs.

809
01:03:22,611 –> 01:03:28,221
And it doesn’t matter if you’re a young
athlete or, or if you’re not into sports.

810
01:03:28,244 –> 01:03:35,594
What we are talking about, what I’m trying to, to give
applies to everything, to every, every situation and yeah.

811
01:03:36,374 –> 01:03:51,053
So, and it’s starting, and it’s an, it’s an, it’s a four
week program that we are that we’re offering to start with,
but it continues with a monthly champions, mind, the academy
club, the future stars, a mentoring club, we call it.

812
01:03:51,043 –> 01:03:53,773
So it’s something because champions champions mindset.

813
01:03:53,773 –> 01:03:58,123
That’s something that we can, that we going to
learn and continue to practice all our life.

814
01:03:58,753 –> 01:04:00,613
It never ends, it never ends.

815
01:04:00,613 –> 01:04:01,143
And it, it.

816
01:04:02,293 –> 01:04:04,393
I really looking forward to, it’s really exciting.

817
01:04:04,453 –> 01:04:05,683
It’s really exciting to me.

818
01:04:05,683 –> 01:04:07,213
Totally new field again.

819
01:04:07,723 –> 01:04:13,628
And I’ve been doing mentoring sessions with with young
people from all over the world for two years now.

820
01:04:13,988 –> 01:04:20,385
And I’ve worked with hundreds of kids and,
and players from all different ages, but
in this kind of setup it’s a new thing.

821
01:04:20,385 –> 01:04:22,515
So I’m like, I’m like a rookie again.

822
01:04:22,845 –> 01:04:23,445
I love it.

823
01:04:23,565 –> 01:04:25,665
I love the, uh, I love the competition.

824
01:04:25,665 –> 01:04:28,005
I love the, uh, I love how it’s going to be.

825
01:04:31,078 –> 01:04:43,883
So when it comes to personal development and
leadership, I mean, you’ve, you’ve said, I think,
uh, most of the things already, but sum it up,
like which paradigms do you believe need to be.

826
01:04:43,883 –> 01:04:44,723
challenged?

827
01:04:44,893 –> 01:04:52,576
Which false beliefs maybe need to be challenged when
it comes to personal development and leadership.

828
01:04:53,320 –> 01:04:54,900
You said it’s false beliefs.

829
01:04:55,560 –> 01:04:56,040
I mean,

830
01:04:57,149 –> 01:05:02,993
in my opinion, what the hell had to learn about
myself is to question everything where I came from.

831
01:05:03,323 –> 01:05:03,773
Why.

832
01:05:03,777 –> 01:05:06,657
What I’m thinking is everything true?

833
01:05:06,867 –> 01:05:16,162
What my parents were telling me what the mayor was telling
me when I grew up all those, those institutions that I
had a hundred percent trust in when I was growing up.

834
01:05:16,462 –> 01:05:20,392
That’s just the way it is that that’s
how things are done in our society.

835
01:05:20,392 –> 01:05:21,262
In our culture.

836
01:05:21,712 –> 01:05:22,522
It turns out to.

837
01:05:23,257 –> 01:05:25,117
That many things were great.

838
01:05:25,507 –> 01:05:29,107
Many things were not as great and need to be changed.

839
01:05:29,347 –> 01:05:33,937
So the only constant is really
change and being ready for change.

840
01:05:33,967 –> 01:05:49,327
I think that’s something that, that we really have to
get into our heads and embrace as a positive and not
as a negative that, that, that brings fear and, and,
and the development to the worse to us that change.

841
01:05:50,697 –> 01:05:53,247
That’s just the nature of life.

842
01:05:53,997 –> 01:05:54,927
We’re evolving.

843
01:05:54,927 –> 01:05:58,017
We are changing and we should embrace this to be positive.

844
01:05:58,767 –> 01:06:02,517
That’s one thing that was really
important to me to reconsider.

845
01:06:02,517 –> 01:06:07,197
And I really like that book from Vishen
Lakhiani cone of an extraordinary mind.

846
01:06:07,787 –> 01:06:20,997
Where he talks about exactly about this stuff coming from
a different religion, religious background from different
cultural background, but asking the same questions,
does it really fit the way I want to live my life?

847
01:06:21,027 –> 01:06:24,147
Does it fit to the society I want to live in right now?

848
01:06:24,807 –> 01:06:27,267
And then making a conscious choice?

849
01:06:27,567 –> 01:06:28,467
What kind of life?

850
01:06:29,412 –> 01:06:32,202
I’m choosing, what kind of friends am I choosing?

851
01:06:32,202 –> 01:06:34,302
What kind of discussions I want to lead?

852
01:06:34,842 –> 01:06:36,342
Um, I think that’s really important.

853
01:06:37,032 –> 01:06:37,662
That’s one thing.

854
01:06:37,662 –> 01:06:55,344
And the second thing is I love to talk about our leadership
and in a leadership in my, in my in my work where our
leadership is, I mean, the leadership from being a leader
of a company, being the leader of a group, setting, setting
a framework for that other people can be successful in.

855
01:06:55,404 –> 01:06:57,414
So we can be successful as a group.

856
01:06:58,014 –> 01:07:03,526
Um, that’s really important to know too seeing that
the leader doesn’t have to be the guy who knew.

857
01:07:04,646 –> 01:07:09,986
The leader hasn’t, doesn’t have to be the guy who
doesn’t show any weakness who is not vulnerable.

858
01:07:10,256 –> 01:07:23,703
You know, the leader is the leader because of a
natural ability to influence people, to, to have
that vision to, to be, to be that person that, that
can build trust, to have a certain role in a group.

859
01:07:25,648 –> 01:07:32,638
But just being a normal person with the same
flaws and the same cool was, and finding
something together and collaborate with people.

860
01:07:32,818 –> 01:07:38,820
That’s that leadership that I’m looking for to change
and to help build in, in, in, in businesses, for example.

861
01:07:39,180 –> 01:07:40,530
And, but then there’s the other side.

862
01:07:41,400 –> 01:07:49,710
And I, that something that was really painful
for me to see many times, especially in kids,
in young athletes, that kind of attitude.

863
01:07:50,445 –> 01:07:52,925
Doesn’t doesn’t matter, no judgment where it comes from.

864
01:07:52,985 –> 01:07:59,015
It’s just the reality of the fact that a lot of times
you see this kind of approach sitting and watching.

865
01:07:59,015 –> 01:07:59,615
Okay.

866
01:08:00,305 –> 01:08:01,025
Let’s see.

867
01:08:01,475 –> 01:08:01,745
Okay.

868
01:08:01,745 –> 01:08:04,205
Coach, make me good teacher.

869
01:08:04,775 –> 01:08:06,305
Let’s see how good this teacher is.

870
01:08:06,305 –> 01:08:12,695
How, what he’s teaching me, not that
approach of it’s up to me to, to be good.

871
01:08:12,725 –> 01:08:13,745
What can I do?

872
01:08:13,745 –> 01:08:15,245
What can I influence?

873
01:08:15,725 –> 01:08:19,495
Even though, because in life
sometimes that’s and again, in sport.

874
01:08:20,255 –> 01:08:29,885
Can I influence as a normal player of a team who
is going to be my coach, if he’s going to like me,
or if he’s, if he fits in his thinking perfect.

875
01:08:29,975 –> 01:08:37,485
In a way I like to play, I still have to fulfill a
certain role on the team so we can be successful.

876
01:08:37,485 –> 01:08:44,325
It doesn’t matter if it’s a hundred percent perfect for
me personally, I still have to deal with it otherwise.

877
01:08:45,105 –> 01:08:47,925
In my world, where I came, I came
from, I’m going to lose my job.

878
01:08:49,425 –> 01:08:50,835
I’m going to be, I’m not going to win.

879
01:08:51,495 –> 01:09:01,395
I’m going to be that guy who gets pushed around and
pushed around and just people passing by because
they’re willing to suck it up when it gets hard,
because they know it’s going to be hard sometimes.

880
01:09:01,395 –> 01:09:03,945
And they are asking, what can I learn from this?

881
01:09:04,485 –> 01:09:05,565
I still have to do it.

882
01:09:05,595 –> 01:09:06,405
What can I learn?

883
01:09:06,405 –> 01:09:09,675
What, what, what kind of experience
do I take away from that situation?

884
01:09:09,885 –> 01:09:13,005
So this kind of attitude, when you bring them.

885
01:09:13,875 –> 01:09:19,545
In your thinking in your mindset of people
you’re bringing into your team, you cannot lose.

886
01:09:20,115 –> 01:09:26,685
And that’s missing a lot of times this kind of,
okay, let’s see what they can bring so I can be good.

887
01:09:27,015 –> 01:09:28,425
It’s not my responsibility.

888
01:09:28,425 –> 01:09:33,135
It’s always somebody else’s responsibility
and this kind of attitude needs to be changed.

889
01:09:36,003 –> 01:09:37,203
So my final.

890
01:09:37,528 –> 01:09:48,738
Question is well, it’s about your legacy and, uh, as a
sports pro you do have a legacy that’s on doubtable, but
what would you like your, your legacy as a human to be.

891
01:09:49,458 –> 01:09:54,738
Oh my God, to be honest, I’ve never really thought about it.

892
01:09:54,738 –> 01:09:55,488
That hard.

893
01:09:55,555 –> 01:09:59,989
Something that I’m I’m I’m playing with is I want to be.

894
01:10:01,514 –> 01:10:08,061
Somebody who try to get the best out of him
and was not afraid of, of, taking the risk.

895
01:10:09,141 –> 01:10:16,502
Um, and find excuses why he didn’t try just
because he was afraid of failing, for example,
that something for myself, this kind of okay.

896
01:10:16,578 –> 01:10:18,618
It’s and it’s not about winning all the time.

897
01:10:18,648 –> 01:10:20,748
It’s just that it’s a great feeling.

898
01:10:20,748 –> 01:10:22,968
And there is so much potential in me.

899
01:10:22,968 –> 01:10:28,458
And I believe in that, that I want to keep
pushing, but big turning point in my life.

900
01:10:28,548 –> 01:10:33,408
For example, in putting into perspective
how important I am myself, I was for myself.

901
01:10:34,608 –> 01:10:37,998
Um, was when the kids came into my
life, obviously that was kind of, okay.

902
01:10:37,998 –> 01:10:39,858
That was this immediate change.

903
01:10:40,548 –> 01:10:41,028
Okay.

904
01:10:42,858 –> 01:10:44,898
I would change my life in a second.

905
01:10:45,348 –> 01:10:49,038
If I could save my kids and any,
any debt usually would say that.

906
01:10:49,038 –> 01:11:00,498
And any, any, any mother would say that once you have
that little one in your hands and you look at it the
first time, then you have that feeling, then, you
know, then you know, and then that changed everything.

907
01:11:02,318 –> 01:11:09,097
And, uh, and I talked about it with a friend of
mine about that, that education and, what we learn.

908
01:11:09,277 –> 01:11:10,837
We have to bring up our children.

909
01:11:10,837 –> 01:11:13,507
We have to teach them, educate them.

910
01:11:13,537 –> 01:11:13,987
Really.

911
01:11:14,587 –> 01:11:24,067
I think the biggest thing is to be a good role model and
to do the things as good and as fair and as, as fun as I.

912
01:11:25,067 –> 01:11:32,777
Do to show my kids that you have choices and that
it’s up to you and you don’t have to be like me.

913
01:11:33,077 –> 01:11:34,487
I’m an idiot in many ways.

914
01:11:34,577 –> 01:11:39,557
I’m I’m I was pretty good at some
things, but I suck at other things.

915
01:11:39,857 –> 01:11:40,787
And so will you.

916
01:11:41,422 –> 01:11:47,302
But, you know, find something with
passion and do it, make it a lifestyle.

917
01:11:47,332 –> 01:11:52,672
And that’s something that I would look back if they
look at me at one day and I would say, you know what?

918
01:11:52,912 –> 01:11:54,270
That he had a great life.

919
01:11:54,270 –> 01:11:55,200
He enjoyed it.

920
01:11:55,800 –> 01:11:57,450
He did not look back too much.

921
01:11:57,480 –> 01:11:58,890
Let’s celebrate his life.

922
01:11:59,100 –> 01:12:01,320
And he showed us how to, how to continue.

923
01:12:02,705 –> 01:12:09,575
Something to give something to other people, to take care
of yourself, to treat the body rights, to be a good person.

924
01:12:10,272 –> 01:12:15,492
Hey, what, what else can I, can I ask
for, what else can I end the same thing?

925
01:12:15,702 –> 01:12:22,312
If I, am able to live that way and to get
better at that, doesn’t matter what I do.

926
01:12:22,402 –> 01:12:23,452
I will be successful.

927
01:12:25,892 –> 01:12:31,592
I have something to show for if it’s important,
you know, to the outside world, for sure.

928
01:12:31,622 –> 01:12:33,512
Good things happen when you do good things.

929
01:12:34,233 –> 01:12:34,563
Okay.

930
01:12:34,563 –> 01:12:35,043
Great.

931
01:12:35,283 –> 01:12:35,673
Thank you.

932
01:12:35,673 –> 01:12:36,393
very much.

933
01:12:36,693 –> 01:12:41,043
was really a pleasure talking to
you and hope to see you back again.

934
01:12:42,433 –> 01:12:44,443
And all the best for your projects?

935
01:12:44,453 –> 01:12:47,473
the you’re a rookie again, that I love the sentence.

936
01:12:49,813 –> 01:12:50,173
Thank you

937
01:12:50,213 –> 01:12:50,663
it okay?

938
01:12:50,663 –> 01:12:51,233
Exactly.

939
01:12:51,243 –> 01:12:52,463
Thank you very much for having me.

940
01:12:53,203 –> 01:12:53,683
Thank you.

941
01:12:56,305 –> 01:13:01,728
Thank you for staying tuned for this
edition of challenging paradigm X.

942
01:13:01,788 –> 01:13:06,438
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943
01:13:06,828 –> 01:13:09,018
So data’s message gets spread evenly.

944
01:13:09,408 –> 01:13:09,558
Yeah.

945
01:13:09,888 –> 01:13:18,888
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to his work and the champions mind academy, please
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946
01:13:18,888 –> 01:13:29,254
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